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Friday, January 21, 2011

The Blue Goat not revisited... I went to Camino Real instead...

Thanks to the wonders of Google and search engines one of the five loyal Blue Goat customers has written in anonymously to complain and I am going to devote a whole post to someone who won't even go to the trouble of making up a clever fake name.
Of course this will get more references to the Blue Goat in Google listings which I'm not sure is really the point the anonymous poster's criticism of my review.
Anyway, to put this all in perspective, last weekend a good friend of mine from high school came to visit and they wanted to go out to dinner. I suggested the Blue Goat as it is a nice, new, cozy little restaurant which has some problems which I hope will be solved and it will be successful, or go broke, or not. It is Amity.
I did reread my review and I really have to start doing some proofreading but that is a whole different story. This is The Lazy Farmer and I have 30 followers and I rant about odd stuff so I don't really expect to be taken seriously. Just the same, Google does put my keywords high in the search engines as I post nearly every day and so if you look for, The Blue Goat, Amity on Google you will find my blog.
Perhaps I was a bit harsh on them. I liked my pork bellies. The pear-cheese pizza was not bad. There were lots of interesting dishes. I don't think they should have run out of food. There are several people I have talked with who really didn't like it. I realize this one anonymous poster thought I was harsh but I as a customer I have every right to be a little upset and I'm really not. I'll go back again, in fact I almost went back this evening. I really don't care all that much.

So here is the comment:
"The pear pizza may be a little weird for some, myself included, but it's not like it doesn't change weekly. What do you have against Chorizo? It is made with locally farmed meat and it's actually made in house. Also, they do bake all their own bread, you obviously just didn't have any. And I love your comment about the local tomatoes they could have on the pizza...really it's winter! If it's not your style that's fine, it's pretty obvious by your mention of Busters BBQ and all the fixin's you can get there, your standards are not that high. And while it is true that the community is pretty blue collar, it is the hard work of all the local farms and ranches that are being used to create this food. Not getting good service is one thing, but calling the whole place and the whole menu a joke is unfair. They make almost everything from scratch right there. A far cry from the Ashes Cafe you are unabashedly loyal to."

Oh, boy! A white knight! Boy did the lazy farmer savage the The Blue Goat. That will certainly keep the short pants crowd away! There are already few bicycles leaning up against the front window.
It is really kind of funny that I am responding especially since the anonymous person will never check back and read this blog again.
Anyway, here is the deal...
I've been there before. The pear pizza was the special the last time I was there, several weeks ago. Chorizo, why does everyone like Chorizo? So what if I'm skeptical about Chroizo? So what if the Chroizo is made in house from locally "farmed" meat?
I had the Chroizo made by "Dirty Bob" at the Pine Tree Patio 15 years ago and it made me sick. I had the Chorizo at El Corizon de Mexico in McMinnville whenever it was in business and it was greasy and kind of nasty. So perhaps I prefer Italian sausage. Perhaps I think everyone should prefer Italian sausage, so that make me a lowbrow?
Which brings us to the "local" farms and ranches.
What local farms and ranches? Local agriculture is production agriculture. Grass seed, wheat, huge dairy farms, large vegetable farms and what, five hippies growing chard in their back yards?
Ok, I looked at the menu and there are more than five hippies growing local stuff bought by the Blue Goat. (I kind of like hippies so I meant that with affection) Good for the small farmers, I am glad they found a niche. I had better not make clever comments about them or they will figure out who I am and protest anonymously or worse yet, not buy my chicken feed!
But, I digress...
What is wrong with eating at Buster's? It is not as good at that little place in Dundee that I can't remember the name of. Now that is good BBQ! But, Buster's makes a decent dinner and they never run out of chicken and beef and sprite on the same evening.  I do like that clever zinger that really puts me in my place over eating at Buster's BBQ. Oh, and saying "fixin's" that was all too clever. Boy, I'm even more of a lowbrow.
I did not see the bread as they did not leave a basket at the table. Of course I did not expect them to give me toast like they do at Buster's as this is an upscale restaurant.  So, I was wrong about the bread. Sorry, perhaps they should put bread on the table, sometimes they do that at Ashes. Or did they run out?
Glad you liked my comment on the tomatoes. You see you make tomato sauce with the tomatoes and then you put the sauce on the pizza. This is the same sort of thing they did with the pears. This is the middle of winter and so pears are also not in season so obviously they were able figure that one out. Whole tomatoes in Chicago style pizza would be kind of odd anyway.
I didn't really mind the service. The waiter was a very nice fellow and I sure he still is. He really didn't mean to run out of sprite and I liked the pear spritzer.
And what is wrong with Ashes cafe? They make stuff there from scratch and they work hard. Lots of people work hard and I say good for them. I like to sit on my bottom, I say good for me!
So what if I think the Blue goat should make something else besides cheese and green olive pizza and pear pizza. I still think they should. I also think Ashes cafe should fix that noisy bearing in the ice cream machine before it blows up and they have to call the fire department.
And I think that people who post anonymously on my blog are morons. I use a fake name and so can you. I'm not going to hunt you down or anything.
And furthermore, more people should go to Camino Real.
Some friends from out of town came to visit we went there this evening. We almost went to the Blue Goat but decided it was just too high brow for us this evening.  I had the pork chops with red sauce and onions and it was very good. They did not run out of tortillas or water or sprite and she gave us a nice dessert with whipped cream and festive sprinkles on it. The Blue Goat does not give you festive sprinkles and I think they should.
So there.... Post again anonymously and give me something else to rant about.

22 comments:

  1. Clever names aren't really my thing. My apologies on the farmed vs raised, that's actually a pet peeve of mine and I'm a bit embarrassed. But I don't feel like the lowbrow talk was any more condescending than your talk about the other businesses run by local wine makers, or people who are into bikes. Frankly I feel better after your tearing my comment apart, because I feel like you took your criticism down a notch. Perhaps the sarcasm in your first post was harder for me to grasp because I am new to reading your blog. Now I know.
    Also, you have to ask for bread, just because it's sad for that hard work to go to waste. Amazingly there are still a lot of people doing that avoiding carbs thing, and a new wave of folks avoiding the ever evil gluten.

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  2. Budde, maybe you have a future as a restaurant critic? They say there is no bad publicity. Now the Blue Goat restaurant is known all over the world, even in Saskatchewan.:-)

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  3. It sounds like someone's hand-woven, organic cotton-fiber shorts got tied in a knot; don't it? Just a pointer so you'll fit in with the organic tofu bunch, Budd: always raise your pinkie when you munch on whole grain bread baked in an earth oven. Oh,.....and don't smoke the stuff in the little bowl on the table, it's "Mrs. Dash."

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  4. Anonymous, I think the Blue Goat has a lot of potential, it just needs some constructive criticism. It could be more than a place for people pretending to be hip to hang out.
    So does this mean you are going to continue reading the Lazy Farmer? I hope you read more of it and found it interesting. I do tend to make unkind remarks about wine and bicycles, sort of my comic foil so to speak.
    I would welcome further comments positive or negative. It would be better if you assigned yourself a consistent name. Perhaps, "Fred" or "Goat Advocate" or something, as I tend to be harsh on the anonymous folks.
    Ralph, I would have to proofread if I ever became a real writer. I have heard my review has inspired some potential customers. So I don't think the Blue Goat people should refuse me service.
    Gorges, perhaps I was a bit harsh. As was the stuff I tried to smoke out of the little bowl on the table. I didn't know... Live and learn!

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  5. The culinary delights of Yamhill county have never been the same since the Pine Tree Patio closed. And now they even cut down the pine trees. But it's not the food I miss but the colourful regular patrons who are mostly gone forever.

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  6. I agree that constructive criticism is good, a bunch of "yes men" can get you nowhere in a hurry. I just think that along with improvements that could be made there is a lot to be said for their local sourcing. Not necessarily Amity alone, but Yamhill County. They do support some up and coming small farms, something a few folks on Grand Island are thankful for. And local winemakers have a place where their wine can be enjoyed with more than just cheese and crackers.
    It's not like they are trying to put Ashes or Camino Real out of business.They even buy their salsa, for their empanadas, from Camino Real. Drawing people to Amity for dinner instead of McMinnville benefits all of the local establishments.
    ~Fred
    Also I LOVE Chorizo. And you may have more luck with their lunch menu.

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  7. Hmm. Posting about a new restaurant in a small Oregon town brings more readers than discussions of broken tractors and seed spacing, ? Who knew?

    So if the new career is as a restaurant critic, since you've reviewed all three places in Amity, where to next? Is there a restaurant in Dayton? Hopewell? Is Farrols open anymore?

    I don't think you should give up on the advice columnist thing, either. The help you gave me last summer was priceless!

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  8. Orin, some of us (myself) were never serious farmers to begin with, at least income-wise; but hey, we all gotta eat in a rstaurant once in a while. Since knowledge is power, I think Budd's onto something. Maybe he can morph this into an additional stream of income!

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  9. Hey how about a 99W restaurant tour from Tigard to Junction City. Buster's is about the first one on 99 so there's a start already. No it would take too long to start up north. Better start in Amity a ride south. By bicycle of course.

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  10. Place in Dundee seems is called Huckabee's? Makes my mouth water and the compass swing to the west...

    Don't think I'd take a two wheeler through there on 99 unless it was made by Indian, Triumph or Zundapp.

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  11. I wouldn't have considered going to the Blue Goat if not for reading about it here. My guess is they will do ok despite or perhaps somewhat because of your review.

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  12. I am kind of amazed by the discussion this has sparked. I thought my perpetual motion machine I drew at coffee time was more discussion worthy.
    I suppose this whole Lazy Farmer blog is born out of a clash of cultures.
    I see a lot of energy and excitement with the folks who wear Keens and itchy wool sweaters to work on their semi-organic beef and chicken ranch. They are having the time of their lives. It is cool that they read the old books and I really love it when they buy feed from me. I guess that is the wave of the future. (Hear that Orin)
    So people are more passionate about restaurants then seed spacing, I guess I figured that would be the case...
    Gorges, the donations have not been flowing in. You think anonymous posters would pay to post?
    G706, I still feel bad about causing Bob's heart-attack with those 150lb clover bales. I suppose we are the new generation of "Gregs, Johns, and Franks," (except for the goat thing.)
    Yeah, I think a Lazy Farmer bicycle tour would really go over big. Perhaps Ralph would cycle down from the frozen north and Gorges would bring his bird and there would be like four of us on rusty Schwinn's. Of course the real bicyclists with their tight underwear would just think we were guys who lost their licenses due to drinking at some low brow tavern where they play 1970's country music and would snub us. (oh wait, that would be hip now)
    Fred, I want to eat at the Goat for dinner although I've heard it is better at lunch. I really try to support Camino Real since her "husband" died unexpectedly.
    Collie-Mmmm Huckabee's! We only ride the Triumph during daylight hours...
    Muddy, did you have the pizza or the goat burger?

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  13. You should be up to 31 followers now. Just the thought of y'all on bicycles going down the road, cooler strapped on back, guzzling down the Mad Dog, just seems so right. After the meal, you could hit another 7-11 for another bottle for the trip home. Then finish the day with a review, and how you will have to make the trip next time on the White.
    Now if we mention terrorism, the CIA, and Halliburtin(sp), we can get you on their watch list also.
    jmo
    Bobby

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  14. Budde, I have a nice 12 speed mountain bike in the shed that, if the climate wasn't so dry here, would probably be gathering rust by now. The only biking I plan on doing will be powered by an infernal combustion engine.
    Currently snowbound beyond even 4 WD capacities.

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  15. I seem to be having trouble posting... testing...

    Buddeshepherd - Glad our new place seems to have inspired your imagination! Let us know when you're coming in next and we'll have the banjos waiting. (Failing that, I can whip out a little accordion solo at a moment's notice.)

    While our whole animal in-house butchery program has the unfortunate side effect of running out of the evening's meat preparation on busy nights, it does guarantee the fresh and delicious quality we expect. Introduce yourself next visit and we'll be happy to help you sort out a few misconceptions and find something pleasing to your palate.

    Do note that one of The Goat's charms is the low price tag of the experience... while you can manage to drop a hundred bucks in an evening with six folks, it takes a little effort. With our entrees priced around $8-12, and the lowest price point beer at $3/wine at $7, everyone's welcome.

    See you next time. Can't wait to read the review!
    -Cassie Van Domelen, co-owner and cob oven cook

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  16. Cassie, this whole review got way out of hand. Look at my follower list. I have 31 followers. My opinion doesn't matter except that all this discussion has put this stupid blog high in the Google rankings.
    I like your oven, I like your restaurant, I will probably come back but there is no way I'm going to admit who I am.
    The people I was with on both occasions were more annoyed than I.
    Running out of items that sound really good is kind of a problem. But grumpy locals is not really what you are about, is it?
    My friend who spends time in NYC says you are not expensive at all.
    My wife says I was wrong about the bread. I will say I was having trouble hearing what people were saying so I suppose I missed that one.
    I hope you understand that other people I have talked with have had the same experience and have similar misconceptions so perhaps it is not just me.
    Frankly, many of us in the Amity area really want a nicer alternative restaurant and so while the review might have sounded mean spirited to you, I really meant no ill will.
    What I wrote is what I experienced. I may have reached incorrect conclusions but others have come away with a similar experience. So perhaps there is a perception problem that needs to be corrected.

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  17. who is "dirty bob" from the Pine Tree patio? and why was he given that name?
    I too Miss the patrons from the Pine tree patio and I have heard it has and never will be the same. the trees are cut down now and it just is not the same. It is wonderful to see people still talking about the restaurant THANK YOU for not letting the name die

    Signed,

    Little girl who misses home

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  18. Anonymous, The Pine Tree patio was an institution an now it is no more. Yes, they did cut down the pine trees.
    The last owners were Bob and Carmarlita (sp). The regulars referred to Bob as "Dirty Bob," I don't really know why. Probably giving him a bad time. I don't remember the Pine Tree as not being clean. There was a lot of heckling of the owner in the morning. Once he came out and threw a biscuit at someone.

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  19. That would not sunrise me of my father . I wish I was.able to hear more storys of him . Mom has told me some but its been wonderful to read others thoughts. I have used what I remember and am told to tell my son about his grandfather. My ultimate dream is reopen the pine tree. I am still a busy body who loves talking and people . I have had people recognize my name over the years ( over 2000 miles away ) and tell me about the memories they have . Sometimes I want to thank you once again. I was young but have a lot of precious memories of the farmers and my childhood . So once again thank you

    Signed
    Little girl who misses home
    Brene Kelso
    Bob and Carmelitas daughter

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  20. Sorry about the English and spelling I'm using my phone

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  21. Brene, Thanks for your comments. There are more Pine Tree stories which I should post. The Pine Tree has been the standard by which I've measured cafe's. The words, "it sure ain't the Pine Tree Patio" come to mind... Good food, good portions, good prices.
    Of course the "local color" was better back then. I have not seen anyone in the neighborhood to step in an take Greg Rossner's place. Grumpy and kind of intimidating, but actually a really nice and very interesting fellow. With really good stories.
    Your mom did a good job with the Pine Tree also. I miss it.

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  22. I would love to hear stories . Please do tell.

    Little girl who misses home
    Brene Kelso

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